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1 z 27: kindnesslover

Hey all.
I kno this is a bit of a delv but I want to try linux.
I heard about all these distros like linux mint mate and others.
I have no idea where even to start
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27.03.2022 16:40

2 z 27: patrykkubaszczyk

don't bother with it, you could try mint mate, but meh.
accessibility is not that good.
because I am now using mac as main comp, I will not come here too much.NEW
27.03.2022 17:36

3 z 27: bomberman29

accessible coconut foreverrrrr.
my github: https://github.com/denizsincar29
31.03.2022 10:37

4 z 27: dragma13

iwwwwwwwwwwww, don't rely on the blindy distros! They'll break because the dependancies are also gonna be updated, and yeah, especially accessible coconut, it's just a modified version of the ubuntu iso

thankses and regardzes from him the dragonoid
31.03.2022 11:18

5 z 27: SeedyTV

I've heard good things about Ubuntu Mate. I've tried it myself, and I have to say, it's pretty darn accessible.
How do you reboot your computing machine? You put your feet through the computer screen!
31.03.2022 23:10

6 z 27: patrykkubaszczyk

nomore, with their "good installer" they broke the a11y, unless you are going to ask sighted for help, because it's based on trash installer.
I have put quotes, see where.
because I am now using mac as main comp, I will not come here too much.NEW
01.04.2022 19:03

7 z 27: radiorobbe

In my opinion good old Debian still has the best out-of-the-box accessibility for installation. Boot up the USB drive, wait a few seconds, press s and then enter. Speakup starts talking, and the braille display wakes up if plugged in. After finishing the installation you will have desktop accessibility enabled upon first boot. I recommend MATE desktop. Eventually you can even use the graphical installation, but I've never tried it.
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01.04.2022 19:29

8 z 27: hermis501

even better than talking arch?

04.04.2022 09:05

9 z 27: radiorobbe

At least in terms of user experience, yes.
-- Keiner ist unnütz. Er kann immer noch als schlechtes Beispiel dienen!
04.04.2022 09:45

10 z 27: destructatron

You don't need talking arch. Get the original arch iso, when it boots into its menu before it boots into the terminal, press down arrow then enter. That'll give you speech, and you can then go install it. If you missed the menu, when the terminal comes up just type systemctl start espeakup

09.04.2022 14:47

11 z 27: aldenmaster

I like pure Debian, so I don't have to worry about any ubuntu things. It is light-weight, I run it on a 2005 computer with 2gb of ram and a duel core athlon 64 and it is nice and fast, using only 300mb of ram running the mate desktop. And Arch is good too. Speaking of arch, there is now, this has been around for about a year now, but now there is an installer for arch. Just let the thing boot for about two minutes, then type "systemctl start espeakup," make sure you are on the internet with a ping command and then if you are type "archinstall."
Anything can work. Just decide how much, or what you would like to subject for said thing to work.
11.04.2022 22:45

12 z 27: destructatron

I'm personally not a fan of debian. For one, the kernel version is ancient, same as the packages. Second, I've noticed that apt takes way longer than it should to install packages, I've seen pacman install 500 packages in about 30 seconds, apt however takes more like 10 minutes.

12.04.2022 01:44

13 z 27: radiorobbe

You can use Debian's backport repository to get a more recent kernel, only one or two versions behind the latest available version I think. Thats my prefered way for installing Debian on newer hardware.
I've downloaded Arch yesterday and was able to boot it successfully with speech enabled, maybe I'll try to install it alongside Debian on my laptop.
-- Keiner ist unnütz. Er kann immer noch als schlechtes Beispiel dienen!
12.04.2022 09:54

14 z 27: SeedyTV

I installed Ubuntu Mate 21.10 last week. Already, I'm running 4 virtual machines via Qemu because screw Oracle VirtualBox up the backside, and I successfully updated the kernel to 5.17; it was previously running 5.13. It's a 2.3GHz haswell era Pentium machine with 8GB of RAM and a 500GB Western Digital HDD. Despite these low specs, Ubuntu and my 4 Qemu VMs run like beasts!
How do you reboot your computing machine? You put your feet through the computer screen!
12.04.2022 12:31

15 z 27: etno

Maybe you could make a podcast about it?
-- (radiorobbe):
You can use Debian's backport repository to get a more recent kernel, only one or two versions behind the latest available version I think. Thats my prefered way for installing Debian on newer hardware.
I've downloaded Arch yesterday and was able to boot it successfully with speech enabled, maybe I'll try to install it alongside Debian on my laptop.

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12.04.2022 12:55

16 z 27: destructatron

I have absolutely no problem with qemu, the problemI have is the frontends used to interface with it. For me virtual box does a far better job of grabbing keyboard input than spice does. If there's something out there that uses qemu but grabs keyboard input as well as virtual box does, then I will certainly use qemu even if making VM's appear as actual devices on the physical network is a pain in the neck to do.

15.04.2022 12:46

17 z 27: SeedyTV

I can't use that semi-accessible shithouse for more than 2 minutes without wanting to throw my laptop through the nearist brick wall! Oracle has never cared about blind people, and they never will.
How do you reboot your computing machine? You put your feet through the computer screen!
16.04.2022 15:06

18 z 27: bomberman29

and what is with java access bridge
my github: https://github.com/denizsincar29
17.04.2022 17:19

19 z 27: patrykkubaszczyk

like whole java, it's broken
because I am now using mac as main comp, I will not come here too much.NEW
17.04.2022 18:12

20 z 27: SeedyTV

To get around the keyboard problem in Qemu, I install a program called SharpKeys inside the VM and remap the ungrabbed keys to other keys that: a] can be grabbed, b] I don't really use for their primary function. I mostly virtualize Windows, so this isn't a problem. Not sure what I'd do about Virtualizing Linux, though. If one more person recommends VirtualBox to me, I'll set my hair on fire!
How do you reboot your computing machine? You put your feet through the computer screen!
19.04.2022 23:01

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